When it comes to your time after CAPA, is there anything that you plan to do specifically?
I will. Specifically, I am trying to transition myself from not being directly involved with the
church work, but now put my more of my effort in the college. Yes, that is what I look forward
You have a heart for the college students and training the young?
Yes, yes—mobilizing, getting teachers, just being there to facilitate or to oversee what is
happening at the college as the president.
What’s the spiritual state like in Kenya and the Bible colleges?
People are more just nominal Christians. You can tell, sometimes, who is born-again and who is
not born-again. But until you interact with people, that’s when you can be able to tell who is born
again because many go to church—many. But also we have traditionalists, so there you can also
know this one is not a believer because of the mere factor of what they do. They do the practice
and they rely on the things they do. Yeah. Kenya as a population they say is 80 percent
Christians, but how many people go to church on Sunday? Maybe what the whole total could be
40 percent, 30 percent of the whole population. Yeah so, just like in the U.S.
[…] We have other programs apart from the Bible college; we have other programs. We train
them on evangelism—not specifically those who come to the college, but even those who are
not. We have a program that we go put people together in 15s or 13s, and we send them out into
work for one full week, and we leave it to be.
What do you guys train them to do? Where do you guys send them out?
We train them on one-on- one. Are you familiar with the EE? Evangelist Explosion? So we train
them in EE, Evangelist Explosion; and this one has the methodology where if I train you, you
will also train others, so that the whole thing is a multiplication of both soul-winners and people
trained to be—people trained as soul-winners.
And where do you guys send them out to...?
I mean… you just… Okay, depending where they come from. If he is a doctor, he will be able to
witness to his colleagues. If he is a teacher, he will be able to witness, because you go to where
you are. So we want to make sure that where they are, where you are, we are equipped enough to
reach where you are.
[…] It’s not like missionary. […] We just making sure that there are people who are coming to
church—that people, pastors, that will be able to train their own members so that they can be
able to reach the colleagues. Either their colleagues at work, or maybe is walking. Wherever he
has an opportunity. They may be sitting on the bus. Or maybe a shopping mall. Wherever. He’s
got the know-how to do it. Yeah.