How has your preaching changed during your time at CAPA?
I can say greatly. It has change so greatly. You know, as I’ve already told you, that in the past, I
was preaching, you know? Yes. But sometimes, like this issue about what we call […]
allegorical preaching. Yeah, many times we just go straight, and we say…
For example, like what Joshua told Rahab, you know? Yeah, when these parties went into
Jericho, you know, and they advised him; those three guys, they said, “You put a red cloth, yeah?
A red cloth; and when we see that red cloth on your house, we’re not going to destroy that house
because we’ll know that all your family households are there, you see.”
So sometimes, we just say, “Okay, that, so let me tell you—that red cloth, what is it? That one is
the blood of Jesus.” That is allegorical, yeah, because there’s no Scripture where it says that it’s
the blood of Jesus Christ—it’s not the blood. It was red, but it doesn’t mean that it’s blood.
What it means is obedience. Obedience—being obedient. Obedience is what Rahab was asked to
do because she obeyed the spies. She obeyed the people who came to spy them out. They—the
Israelites—there were guys who were there; they gave her a command. This is what you’re
supposed to do . If you do that, you’re not going to be destroyed. Together, with your
households, you know? So she obeyed.
So the issue is obedience. Obedience. How much do we obey God’s Word? How much do we
obey God? When God tells us to do—when we know that this is what God wants us to do—are
we ready? Do we obey God? Sometimes we can obey, but also maybe […] you find that you
have obeyed, but not as you were supposed to do.
Just like what this guy—Ananias and Sapphira—what they did, they obeyed. They brought the
offering, but their obedience was not complete—was not full—was not a complete obedience.
They obeyed, but they kept some. Yeah, and yet they promised that, “We are going to give all
that we are going to get after selling our land.”
So that’s how it has maybe [changed] my preaching because, just like today, we have finished
with Greek subject, so we are reading about the structure. The structure talks about […] sermon
preparation. Sermon—we call it structural analysis. Like those things—so it’s like, we’re at the
top. You come up with the timeless truth. So you start from this side, you go this side. Exegesis,
exposition, hermeneutics, you know? That one is very important.
So as our professor, Pastor Jim [Ayres], was trying to teach us—[while in the diploma program],
we learned about that. But now, it’s like it’s making more sense. […] Now I can see: Don’t just
go straight from this to this, eh? First, try to go up, up, up, and find the timeless truth; then, go
down. Go down, so that you can come now to—we call it—plural noun proposition.
It’s often more like that; so it’s clear, it’s clear. […] Even the people that I’m ministering, they
can testify. I’m not here to boast, but I’m here to glorify God. I’m here to give thanks to God for
what CAPA is doing, yeah. Sure.